Cuomo set up his interview with a grinning Heng by saying, “Uh, you may have to change the name of the PAC to ‘New Faces With a Hole Burning Through ‘Em PAC,’ because that’s what you did to AOC.”

Corny, yes, but still accurate. Heng’s smile quickly faded.

Heng then awkwardly responded by saying, “Absolutely not. The only thing, the thing is, is Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the face of socialism. Throughout history, socialism has killed lives, including those in my very own family. And so I was merely wanting to force the discussion of talking about what true socialism is in our country, and to force that debate.”


Cuomo pointed out that Pol Pot and Khmer Rouge weren’t actually about socialism, but rather “him being an evil human being.” Heng’s response was mostly rambling nonsense.

Asked for examples of what the hell she’s talking about, Heng responded with more awkwardness: “If you look at it, they are, they represent socialism.”


“But socialism doesn’t mean ‘shoot you dead in the streets,’” Cuomo countered.

It was downhill from there.

As Slate noted, Heng was a former staffer for Republican Rep. Ed Royce of California, the former chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee who retired from Congress this year. And last year, Trump nominated Royce’s wife, Marie Royce, to be assistant secretary of Educational and Cultural Affairs in the State Department.


That nomination occurred after Marie Royce wrote several emails to Elliott Broidy, a member of Trump’s inaugural committee, saying that she wanted the job, according to Newsweek. Note how this works.

For her part, Heng ran for Representative of California’s 16th congressional district in 2018 against the Democratic incumbent, Jim Costa.


She lost.

And now she appears to be auditioning for the next season of Trump’s reality TV show presidency (or Fox News).