Political insiders writing books about politics, apparently a practice invented after 2016.

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Given the forum for serious discourse, the Fox News co-hosts also encouraged the press secretary to talk about how Donald Trump reacted to seeing administration figures like Sean Spicer—who, despite all odds, is doing just fine—being mocked by Saturday Night Live.

“It had become, again, theater and they weren’t being good to his people and he doesn’t like that,” Grisham said. “He is very loyal to his people and he put a stop to it.”

How nice!

The press secretary also went on to say that Trump is “his own best spokesperson,” which, uh, seems objectively untrue.