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White House staff have been quick to both defend Porter’s character, while simultaneously feigning outrage at his alleged abuse. But Willoughby expressed concern for one of the key players in the saga—current White House Communications Director Hope Hicks, who is reportedly in a relationship with Porter and who has been helping to lead the White House response to the scandal.

“It definitely worries me because, if I’m being frank with you, if he hasn’t already been abusive with Hope, he will,” she said.

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Watch Willoughby’s full interview with Cooper below.